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Post by dox on May 23, 2015 21:57:51 GMT -6
I have been going down the schedule to play some of the future courses. Some great places to play coming up.
Looking forward to the British Open, but it might be a problem. The par 4 12th can be reached in one, or even coming up short will cause this. When on the front of the green the putt uphill is basically not possible with a full powered swing at the max distance possible. The ball will roll back but it is just a bowl shape and it funnels back into that spot, not off the green.
I love the course for some of the looks, some greens and fairways are nice. On the other hand some thing looked rushed. Hills or depressions look just like the brush and then flat all around. The 17th is tough to replicate, but the tee placement seems way off. Again these are minor issues but the 12th green is a problem. Without being able to use another club. putting might be impossible. Just follow my ghost ball to see. I got lucky and it stuck up on the corner of the large slope.
Sorry if this was the wrong course or another version is coming with updates.
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Post by Matt10 on May 23, 2015 23:06:41 GMT -6
I have been going down the schedule to play some of the future courses. Some great places to play coming up. Looking forward to the British Open, but it might be a problem. The par 4 12th can be reached in one, or even coming up short will cause this. When on the front of the green the putt uphill is basically not possible with a full powered swing at the max distance possible. The ball will roll back but it is just a bowl shape and it funnels back into that spot, not off the green. I love the course for some of the looks, some greens and fairways are nice. On the other hand some thing looked rushed. Hills or depressions look just like the brush and then flat all around. The 17th is tough to replicate, but the tee placement seems way off. Again these are minor issues but the 12th green is a problem. Without being able to use another club. putting might be impossible. Just follow my ghost ball to see. I got lucky and it stuck up on the corner of the large slope. Sorry if this was the wrong course or another version is coming with updates. Thanks a lot for testing them all out dox. I will take a look at St. Andrews. If you have any other suggestions, definitely let me know. |
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Post by mcbogga on May 23, 2015 23:20:23 GMT -6
Haven't found any good St. Andrews yet. The ones out there all have quite serious flaws
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Post by colgreenshields on May 24, 2015 2:37:35 GMT -6
I have been going down the schedule to play some of the future courses. Some great places to play coming up. Looking forward to the British Open, but it might be a problem. The par 4 12th can be reached in one, or even coming up short will cause this. When on the front of the green the putt uphill is basically not possible with a full powered swing at the max distance possible. The ball will roll back but it is just a bowl shape and it funnels back into that spot, not off the green. I love the course for some of the looks, some greens and fairways are nice. On the other hand some thing looked rushed. Hills or depressions look just like the brush and then flat all around. The 17th is tough to replicate, but the tee placement seems way off. Again these are minor issues but the 12th green is a problem. Without being able to use another club. putting might be impossible. Just follow my ghost ball to see. I got lucky and it stuck up on the corner of the large slope. Sorry if this was the wrong course or another version is coming with updates. Yea, I suggested to Matt that we look at St. Andrews black tees for the open and I did mention that the 12th hole will need some kind of ruling if we go ahead with it. My personal opinion is that since it is a par 4, a lay up short of the green us the sensible option and anyone trying to drive the green runs the risk of ending up in the un-puttable area at the front of the green. I also agree that the 17th is a bit off in terms of realism. Other than that I think it's the best rendition of the old course that we have at the moment and would provide a stern test. |
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Post by Matt10 on May 24, 2015 7:15:36 GMT -6
Yeah, it's a tough call. Hard to regulate - most likely go with what colgreenshields says - and like mcbogga said - there is no other St. Andrews that I could find...that were decent enough for the RGT. If anyone knows please let us know before that time. |
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Post by blackaces13 on May 24, 2015 14:36:29 GMT -6
So if I'm understanding correctly the solution is to be forced to hit a putt that cannot reach the hole, or in this case putt backwards to avoid a Sisyphean fate?
That seems harsh. I think if faced with a putt that the player knows cannot reach the hole @ max strength, they should be able to chip/pitch it.
This is a once a season type occurrence. I think allowing this extremely limited exception is preferable to effectively turning the green into a hazard.
Just my opinion.
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Post by dox on May 24, 2015 15:13:04 GMT -6
Only tested a few, but trying to go 2-3 weeks ahead at least to have a practice round in. I manly was looking at the next 2 majors to change things up(love the US open on first look, hard but fair). Hopefully others will do the same to find any possible issues.
I agree that driving the green is not needed. It was by accident since i just went for it with it being a practice round. The problem with laying up there is the 2nd shot can just do the same thing if you come up short or the wind knocks it down. With just putting there some players may never get to the hole without chipping it backwards(not sure u can putt it safely backwards as I didn't try).
I also agree with it being the best version out there, but it has some major flaws and maybe not up to what we expect on this tour. If an update comes or another St Andrews I think we will all be on board. However just finding a good links substitute might be advisable. I will try and look for some but right now I just have enough time to play our event and practice rounds with tour courses.
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Post by rembrandt123 on May 24, 2015 16:28:52 GMT -6
Not looking forward to this weeks tournament, in general the greens are small and in some cases the flags are tucked only about 3 yds. onto the front of the greens not much chance of getting close and they have some heavy borrows. Mind that's only my opinion.
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Post by colgreenshields on May 24, 2015 22:07:26 GMT -6
Not looking forward to this weeks tournament, in general the greens are small and in some cases the flags are tucked only about 3 yds. onto the front of the greens not much chance of getting close and they have some heavy borrows. Mind that's only my opinion. I can testify that this week's course is tough! Pin placement is close to the front of the green in most cases like you say and are set on tricky slopes. I lost count of the number of putts I missed from closer than 6ft. I like the course, but just felt that pin placement and slopes were too tricked up for no grids play. |
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Post by StoneComet on May 24, 2015 23:04:04 GMT -6
Not looking forward to this weeks tournament, in general the greens are small and in some cases the flags are tucked only about 3 yds. onto the front of the greens not much chance of getting close and they have some heavy borrows. Mind that's only my opinion. The course, TGC Player's Club - Stadium, is quite a challenge with some real testers on the green. I finally put in an even par for the first time today. It is tough to get close on some but some of those tucked pins can be reasonably reached if you know the course well and let the green slope trickle it towards the hole. Some of them are fairly unreachable for a close approach on the pin and can lead to some interesting or not so interesting putts depending on how well you do. Funny thing is I do enjoy this course. I've had some friends play the course with green grids off and I have seen them make some of those short putts that I miss a lot. Not sure how they do it but they do. I'm actually looking forward to it even though it will really challenge me. Good Luck and hopefully the next course selection will be a better fit. -Stone  |
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Post by rembrandt123 on May 25, 2015 4:46:18 GMT -6
I like the course it looks interesting but putting is gonna be tough
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Post by rembrandt123 on May 25, 2015 12:15:47 GMT -6
Not looking forward to this weeks tournament, in general the greens are small and in some cases the flags are tucked only about 3 yds. onto the front of the greens not much chance of getting close and they have some heavy borrows. Mind that's only my opinion. The course, TGC Player's Club - Stadium, is quite a challenge with some real testers on the green. I finally put in an even par for the first time today. It is tough to get close on some but some of those tucked pins can be reasonably reached if you know the course well and let the green slope trickle it towards the hole. Some of them are fairly unreachable for a close approach on the pin and can lead to some interesting or not so interesting putts depending on how well you do. Funny thing is I do enjoy this course. I've had some friends play the course with green grids off and I have seen them make some of those short putts that I miss a lot. Not sure how they do it but they do. I'm actually looking forward to it even though it will really challenge me. Good Luck and hopefully the next course selection will be a better fit. -Stone The trouble is without the green grid being on you can't always see the slope running down to the hole, you need to play the course a few times to memorise the slopes and when I do that I usually miss them lol |
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Post by rembrandt123 on May 25, 2015 16:15:12 GMT -6
Accept my withdrawal from the tournament, had a shit front nine so decided to give it best. See you next week
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Post by poobley on Jun 5, 2015 8:33:37 GMT -6
I just played "The Open St. Andrews Thursday" and found it alot better than this course.
it was near the top of the list when looking at new public course.
May be worth a change for this one.
I am trying to do St. Andrews justice aswell, but unlikely i will have it completed in time for the open
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Post by Matt10 on Jun 5, 2015 9:02:50 GMT -6
I just played "The Open St. Andrews Thursday" and found it alot better than this course. it was near the top of the list when looking at new public course. May be worth a change for this one. I am trying to do St. Andrews justice aswell, but unlikely i will have it completed in time for the open Ah, thanks for letting us know, I'll take a look at it - too bad about St. Andrews at the moment with the tees, I couldn't seem to find the creator to advise. |
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